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    Acupuncture vs pain

    Just please remember to treat acupuncture as any other type of treatment - to introduce it carefully (when in WD, our bodies are ultra-sensitive to all outside stimuli).


    Acupuncture stimulates multiple brain regions, affecting a wide scope of pain dimensions

    It's odd that studies are being done to "prove" certain medical arts have positive effects even after they've proven beneficial over centuries. This seems to be the case with Traditional Chinese Medicine's (TCM) and its most widely practiced methodology, acupuncture.

    A meta-analysis is an overarching analysis of several clinical or laboratory study results with a similar purpose or theme to determine the validity of a basic thread or foundation.

    The Kyung Hee University Acupuncture and Meridian Science Research Center in Seoul, Korea published the following study in March of 2013: "Inserting needles into the body: a meta-analysis of brain activity associated with acupuncture needle stimulation."

    The researchers used 28 brain magnetic resonance image (MRI) studies from 51 acupuncture experiments and compared them with MRI studies from tactile stimulation experiments. The theme was pain and how needle stimulation affected the brain's pain centers.

    Their meta-analysis result was "....better understanding of acupuncture needle stimulation and its effects on specific activity changes in different brain regions as well as its relationship to the multiple dimensions of pain. Future studies can build on this meta-analysis and will help to elucidate the clinically relevant therapeutic effects of acupuncture."

    Does testing a 2500-plus year proven medical art make sense?

    Interesting that this meta/analysis comes from a culture that has been steeped in TCM since it was absorbed from China in 560 AD. By now they know it works, right? It has repeatedly demonstrated its efficacy for pain relief with anesthetic applications during major surgery.

    So what would a meridian research center in Korea be doing with a study to prove acupuncture's efficacy for handling pain with MRI technology in a western medical style comparison study do a meta-analysis and end it with a "future studies" phrase?

    That's a commonly used conservative phrase to invite more research funds and/or give others a chance to shoot down the results and maintain their monopoly. But it may all be necessary to give acupuncture a real shot at opening up the insurance industry's purses for a very inexpensive medical approach.

    Acupuncture sessions cost from $50 to $100 each, and generally they are spaced apart by a few days or more with ten to 20 sessions, sometimes less, to achieve desired results from an existing malady. Those rates are comparable to normal allopathic doctor's office visits without any procedures.

    There are acupuncture colleges that offer supervised student rates at a third of that cost, but it's not the same as having a practitioner handle your case. When you use an acupuncture school for treatments, you're there for the students' benefit.

    Either insurance companies are stupid, or they're beholden to Big Pharma, the FDA, and the AMA, otherwise known as the medical mafia.

    They insist on a battery of double blind placebo peer reviewed studies to confirm efficacy on a much less expensive medical approach while accepting bogus reviews on extremely expensive therapies that often don't work well and render worsening side effects.

    The major problem with doing studies to confirm acupuncture's efficacy is that it's based on a totally different paradigm than western allopathic medicine. The foundations are very different, yet western research continues to compare apples with oranges rather than understand and accept apples.

    Currently, chiropractors and acupuncturists are struggling in a few key states to gain acceptance from the health insurance industry. Four states - California, New Mexico, Washington, and Maryland are offering acupuncture insurance coverage on some specific ailments. It appears that Alaska and Nevada will be next.

    In order to convince insurance companies that cheaper can be better, TCM has to be translated into western allopathic terms. As long as the medical mafia considers empirical observation anecdotal and not "scientific," the studies to validate what's known to work will continue.
    Keep walking. Just keep walking.

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    It definitely works. I'm having TCM at the moment for my bowel issues. In fact, I've just come back from my weekly appointment - a consult, 20 mins of acupunture, and some herbs to make into 'tea' to drink twice daily for the next week.

    Love the comment about insurance companies being stupid, or beholden to Big Pharma, the FDA and the AMA. I think it's actually a bit deeper than that. Acupuncture is not the 'science' and technology of the western world. It's 'natural medicine'. Therefore it can't possibly fulfill the ethnocentric views of the west being superior. But never mind me, I'm just a tad cynical....

    Oh and my diagnosis? Asked this today actually :D - 'spleen chi deficiency' and 'yin deficiency'. Now to find out a bit more about what that actually means ....
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    This brings back memories - back to 1995 when I tried acupuncture weekly ... unfortunately, instead of trying one thing at a time, I also went to the doctor (this was for back spams/pain) and she put me on aropax. When I startd to improve, I told her I wasn't sue if it was the tablets or the acupuncture and she told me IT WOULD NOT BE THE ACUPUNCTURE but the tablets.

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    Nah, couldn't be the acupuncture....That's woo-woo..... ;)
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    "An initiation into shamanic healing means a devaluation of all values, an overturning of the profane world, a peeling away of inveterate handed-down notions of the world, liberation from everything preconceived. For that reason, shamanism is closely connected with suffering. One must suffer the disintegration of one's own system of thought in order to perceive a new world in the higher space."
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