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    Tony Scott: Another suicide due to psych meds?

    Los Angeles Times
    22 Oct 12

    Director Tony Scott was not suffering from cancer and did not have any serious underlying medical conditions -- including cancer -- at the time of his suicide, chief coroner investigator Craig Harvey said.

    Los Angeles County coroner's officials released their final cause of death in the 68-year-old's suicide, finding that he died of multiple blunt-force injuries after leaping from the Vincent Thomas Bridge. The director also had therapeutic levels of the sleep aid Lunesta and the anti-depressant Mirtazipine, also known as Remeron, in his system, according to results of toxicology tests.

    Harvey told The Times that investigators found no pre-existing conditions in Scott, based on both the autopsy and medical records.

    "There was no evidence of neoplasia -- cancer -- identified," Harvey said.

    After Scott's death, some media reports quoted an anonymous source suggesting that Scott had a brain tumor. His family vehemently denied those reports.

    Scott jumped off the Vincent Thomas bridge on Aug. 19. His family has not offered any public explanation as to why he took his own life. The coroner's findings also do not help untangle the mystery.

    Harvey said investigators interviewed Scott's family, but the discussion shed no light on the suicide.

    Several of Scott's associates told The Times that the director had mentioned back or hip problems in the months prior to his death, but many said they had no indication it was anything other than business as normal for the director-producer.

    "He was completely on a high -- laughing and energetic," said Elizabeth Gabler, whose Fox 2000 studio division made "Man on Fire" and was developing Scott's next film, "Lucky Strike." They were scheduled to discuss script notes on the morning after he died, she said.

    "In a million years, this isn't something I'd have thought he'd do," Mark Bomback, a writer on "Unstoppable" said at the time. "I never had an inkling he had any health problems.... You'd think he was making his first film from his level of energy and enthusiasm."


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    thanks for posting about Tony Scott. It's not directly related to Mr. Scott, but I found this quote from Dr. Healy so very insightful: “the history of drugs which have been found to have serious side effects indicates how big the stakes can be. A troublesome side effect emerging early in the life of a new compound can lead to the demise of a company. If the side effect that emerges is one that can be portrayed as part of the disease being treated, for example, suicidality in the case of an antidepressant, what would a company do if the alternative is to have the company go down the tubes? This is the ethical dilemma that has faced all of the SSRI companies.”

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    Great quote. Very harrowing.
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    If the side effect that emerges is one that can be portrayed as part of the disease being treated, for example, suicidality in the case of an antidepressant, what would a company do if the alternative is to have the company go down the tubes?
    So true.
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    In relation to the reported sharp rise in suicides among veterans, this is interesting:

    http://www.pharmalot.com/2012/06/the...psychotic-use/

    I don't think the trauma experienced in current wars is worse than, for example, that experienced in Europe or on Okinawa in WWII. Yet U.S. veterans' suicide rates are much higher now and correspond with taking drugs that weren't available back then.

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    For some reason, that link didn't work for me. Could you try re-posting it, annie?

    Oh, definitely, even if theoretically there are some new war stressors -- and I question this, I don't think anything was more stressful that WWI trench warfare -- or our record-keeping has changed -- even so, the psychotropic medications being handed out to people on the battlefield and veterans is a tragedy of epic proportions, increasing the misery for thousands of soldiers and their families.
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    Maybe you can find the article with the title: "The U.S. Military and Off Label Antipsychotic Use" by Ed Silverman . This was an ah ha moment for me. Hard to prove but all the reports of suicide among veterans just didn't make sense. Then it clicked.

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    Yes, definitely. It's just one of the areas where the massive drugging of huge numbers of people is changing the very landscape.
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