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    Hi Sheila,

    I have another piece of the puzzle re the iodine theory that has fallen into place and changes my thinking on any thyroid involvement.
    First, Ed's leg muscles were notably ropey and there is no extra fat on them. More recently I noticed that the indentation around his long muscles had deep groves and the muscles were hard as rocks. Not in a spasm but just hard. His legs thinning but no apparent muscle loss.
    Tonight we noticed there has been a change. This is significant. The change is that the muscles although still sore, are softer and more pliable. There is more flesh to his legs that I believe is water/moisture returning to the muscles. Very noticeable in this thighs. His legs are more healthy looking and fleshy. The clicking around his knees stopped (he doesn't have knee issues). .......
    So now my theroy is that the iodine is involved in the balance of water in the cells. There seems to be enough in Ed's thyroid. The reading I have done suggests that the iodine in the body is 'reserve' for the thyroid..I don't think so. I think the body uses the iodine to regulate the moisture content in probably all the cells including muscles and organs. He had a lot of pain in his kidney too which has mostly subsided. So the body uses this iodine for other reasons that isn't as readily apparent as thyroid which is the popular thought. Ed's muscle pain and weakness was moving up his arms. This has entirely halted.
    He began taking the iodine about 10 days ago. he noticed 'healing' or improvement by the 6th day and it quickly has been getting better.

    Iodine may be available in health stores, I haven't checked. It is not available in pharmacies in Manitoba. They only offer kelp tablets. I don't believe they are strong enough to help a deficiency although maybe to supplement a healthy person, I don't know at this point.

    What we did, I don't recommend...but we are willing to try it. Our dosage isn't as tidy as taking a pill. The iodine/salt looks like table salt but is a lot more potent than table salt. There is a recommendation by weight for a larger animal. Basically we did the math and figured out approx how much to take. We based the rough amount on figures from the website I posted on the iodine thread. It isn't exact by any means. It has given very good results so far. We will eventually drop the amount down. I am more conservative that Ed, and I take approx 1/4tsb/day. He takes a little scoop on the back of the spoon handle..about 3 of these scoops/3xday.

    Yes thank you for the reminder of reading that story..I forgot about it but am interested.

    I have some bad days still...but my w/d has changed. Where everyday was bad with some obvious windows I now have at least as many good days as bad if not more. I still have speech problems at times but not noticeable to others. My partner thinks the problem is done...I can feel it but it is improving. My energy is much better recently but it is not an agitated energy but a calm one.

    I don't know if you are interested in trying iodine Sheila. If you are please let me know how it goes for you. It has been an interesting find for me.
    ...oh..another thing, Iodine apparently flushes Bromide, chlorine and floride from our bodies. Apparently it can take up to 3 years to clear the bromide. So, why wouldn't this be helpful in clearing all toxins in w/d as well? I think if Omega 3's are the building blocks..iodine is the morter that holds the blocks together.

    ****please remember that what I have mentioned here is just my understanding..I don't say it is correct and I may change my thoughts as time passes and I can see more what is happening. *****


    Sheila, I am going to cut back on the Omega 3's from 11/day to 6/day for a while and see how things go. My gallbladder issues have subsided this afternoon and i feel good again. I have been feeling that the oil might be bothering me..but not sure. I was burping fish oil more lately until this latest problem. I haven't been diagnosed..I am guessing what is the issue.

    I enjoy having you to talk to about all this Sheila. Thank you.
    Joy

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    Hi Sheila,

    I have another piece of the puzzle re the iodine theory that has fallen into place and changes my thinking on any thyroid involvement.
    First, Ed's leg muscles were notably ropey and there is no extra fat on them. More recently I noticed that the indentation around his long muscles had deep groves and the muscles were hard as rocks. Not in a spasm but just hard. His legs thinning but no apparent muscle loss.
    Tonight we noticed there has been a change. This is significant. The change is that the muscles although still sore, are softer and more pliable. There is more flesh to his legs that I believe is water/moisture returning to the muscles. Very noticeable in this thighs. His legs are more healthy looking and fleshy. The clicking around his knees stopped (he doesn't have knee issues). .......
    So now my theroy is that the iodine is involved in the balance of water in the cells. There seems to be enough in Ed's thyroid. The reading I have done suggests that the iodine in the body is 'reserve' for the thyroid..I don't think so. I think the body uses the iodine to regulate the moisture content in probably all the cells including muscles and organs. He had a lot of pain in his kidney too which has mostly subsided. So the body uses this iodine for other reasons that isn't as readily apparent as thyroid which is the popular thought. Ed's muscle pain and weakness was moving up his arms. This has entirely halted.
    He began taking the iodine about 10 days ago. he noticed 'healing' or improvement by the 6th day and it quickly has been getting better.

    Iodine may be available in health stores, I haven't checked. It is not available in pharmacies in Manitoba. They only offer kelp tablets. I don't believe they are strong enough to help a deficiency although maybe to supplement a healthy person, I don't know at this point.

    What we did, I don't recommend...but we are willing to try it. Our dosage isn't as tidy as taking a pill. The iodine/salt looks like table salt but is a lot more potent than table salt. There is a recommendation by weight for a larger animal. Basically we did the math and figured out approx how much to take. We based the rough amount on figures from the website I posted on the iodine thread. It isn't exact by any means. It has given very good results so far. We will eventually drop the amount down. I am more conservative that Ed, and I take approx 1/4tsb/day. He takes a little scoop on the back of the spoon handle..about 3 of these scoops/3xday.

    Yes thank you for the reminder of reading that story..I forgot about it but am interested.

    I have some bad days still...but my w/d has changed. Where everyday was bad with some obvious windows I now have at least as many good days as bad if not more. I still have speech problems at times but not noticeable to others. My partner thinks the problem is done...I can feel it but it is improving. My energy is much better recently but it is not an agitated energy but a calm one.

    I don't know if you are interested in trying iodine Sheila. If you are please let me know how it goes for you. It has been an interesting find for me.
    ...oh..another thing, Iodine apparently flushes Bromide, chlorine and floride from our bodies. Apparently it can take up to 3 years to clear the bromide. So, why wouldn't this be helpful in clearing all toxins in w/d as well? I think if Omega 3's are the building blocks..iodine is the morter that holds the blocks together.

    ****please remember that what I have mentioned here is just my understanding..I don't say it is correct and I may change my thoughts as time passes and I can see more what is happening. *****


    Sheila, I am going to cut back on the Omega 3's from 11/day to 6/day for a while and see how things go. My gallbladder issues have subsided this afternoon and i feel good again. I have been feeling that the oil might be bothering me..but not sure. I was burping fish oil more lately until this latest problem. I haven't been diagnosed..I am guessing what is the issue.

    I enjoy having you to talk to about all this Sheila. Thank you.
    Joy

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    One more thing I think has been positive for me and belive the iodine is responsible for..
    I had the cogwheel tremors I mentioned at the beginning of this thread. I showed my doctor the tremor only 2 weeks ago. It was less then it was last year but still there. Today I checked it and it is so mild nobody could see it. I can only notice it if I pay particular attention and move very very slowly with muscle tension try to find the tremor. That is improvement. I believe the problem was from taking Serequel and Effexor. However as iodine is effecting this positively, it makes me think that these drugs perhaps impact the absorption of minerals or block the iodine in some way and the medication induced Parkinsons syndrome is brought on by cellular changes/deficiencies and can be corrected in a similar fashion.

    Similar for Ed...Last week I had Ed raise a heavy book in one hand only using the muscles from the elbow to the hand and to raise the book very slowly. He was upset to see he had a tremor and the book shook badly. He was very distressed when I pointed out that the other hand during this exercise which had been resting on his lap was twitching noticeably. We redid the book test today...the book was steady. His resting hand still.

    Although we will still keep the appointment with the neurologist who specializes in nuromuscular disorders..I don't believe it is a neurological disorder at all!

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    Hi Sheila,

    I couldn't bring up the link you put for the story mentioned above. The signal is bad here and the page can't seem to load. I did look up the story on a general search and I don't understand the connection of the story to iodine.
    I just briefly overviewed the site I brought up on it. I realize you haven't read the article yet but is smacks of occultism. As a Christian I don't entertain anything with spiritistic overtones so I will pass on this article. But thank you for the suggestion.

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    Awwww, Joy, what sadness ..the site will be closing on Friday ..
    I would not want to loose touch with you ..
    How very sad this news is ..:(
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    Joy -- Does your reading link iodine with cellular water balance? Because I'm also wondering if Ed is regaining normal fat in his legs?

    Personally, I love your farmer-approach to supplementation!

    That's really remarkable progress on your w/d. I think what I'll do is read the links you found on iodine and maybe read that Romano bio.

    I enjoy talking to you about this too. I have written down your Omega-3 dose change, and I will be keeping it for possible future research.

    Now, just to be devil's advocate, you had gone up on your Omega-3, and that takes awhile to show effect, and then keeps showing more and more effect over time. That could be part of your recent improvements.

    I wonder what the neuro specialist has to say about iodine.

    I'm not sure what occult story you're referring to. If it's the Jacques Romano story, JSYK, he was an iodine health nut, who was phenomenally physically healthy and helped a lot of other people heal physically. He also was highly intuitive, you might say psychic, but there's nothing unwholesome about him. And the bio is written by a psychiatrist from a highly researchy point of view. No pressure, JSYK.

    How does one know if one has taken too much iodine?
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    Hi Sheila,

    Thank you for your message. I just learned a few min ago from Biscotaki's note that this site will be closing. I see there is a thread that i had better read. I am very sad to hear that. I will talk to you on here until it is done, but please know how very very much I have appreciated this site, the lovely people on here and you in particular. You are a smart, compassionate lady that has so much to offer the world.
    Will you be on another website as I would like to keep in touch if you are wanting to. My email address is on your blog.

    My reading of Iodine tells me that there is no clear research on any of it. The research and amounts have seemed have been aimed at stopping goiter.
    On one site I looked at today there was some indication that it does effect multiple sites on your body. I didn't come up with any clear connection to water balance but my intuition tells me that the iodine/salt has to effect it. I am watching it happen with Ed and I think it is more than fat as the muscles are pliable, smooth and not as ropey and hard..however it possibly could be effecting the fat too.

    I am nervous about the iodine for myself. I have a pain in my side that I thought was maybe gallbladder but the sickness from that subsided and today I have a pain in what feels like my kidney on my side and back. I think I will maybe move to a strong version of kelp. I don't want to risk stressing my body more than I have too. As far as Omega 3's...yes, the feeling better can be associated with that...very possible. I was feeling the oil was bothering me even though it was helping me too. I need some time to tell and work my way around to find out how to address it.

    I feel that more is needed for all of us in w/d..I feel the omega 3, as important as it is, isn't the complete story. I don't know what is...but I am suspecting it has to do with trace elements. I have very little knowledge but I think the answer in w/d will involve a combination of things.
    Making sure our bodies can carry out the essentials work it needs to do.

    1. Take in of nutrition and address deficiencies that standard medicine doesn't even recognize. (I have little faith in the recommended levels)
    2. Digest, breakdown and use of nutrition
    3. Release of toxins from the body, including elimination.
    4. Hydration
    5. exercise (which I don't do..) of mind and body and
    6. meditation/relaxation and psycological help and support.

    And all done in as close to natural as possible. And I am sure I have missed some essentials. My knowledge is limited.
    The problem that makes things harder is that people may still have mental health issues to deal with as well as w/d...although I would love to see everyone's mental health issues..every case of depression/anxiety be first looked at through the lens of deficiencies as well as building the body to deal with the emotional issues with the Omega 3's which has a whole lot of science behind it.

    The farmer approach to supplements LOL...I know it sounds crazy doesn't it? but Ed has a very good sense of what works for animals in spite of not having science to back it up..but experience. An example..In Wales, sheep often have problems with miscarriages..and push out the womb. It was understood that they needed iodine and that supplementation would stop or lower the incidence of this happening. (I hope I am paraphrasing this accurately) He says that if you asked a vet they would not agree probably..however, ask a farmer and they would take that approach. He has so much knowledge that it is interesting to talk to him.
    If people were sheep..with all the sickness we have..the farmer would be broke.

    We went to see the doctor today for Ed. Dr. last saw him 1 month ago and then went on vacation. He had made referrals and while away all the referrals had written back to dr. to say that it isn't their field..The doctor, bless him, was afraid to see us as wasn't sure what to say to us. He watched with amazement as Ed walked in the door with no stick, not limp.
    The doc admitted to knowing nothing about iodine other than it is used for thyroid. Said he would read up on it. some discrepencies in blood work..somethign in the red blood cells that he said wasn't anything..and something else that was just outside limits.. We will get copies of reports next week. I suspect these issues will be cleared up next blood test...ok hope is maybe the word. very much hope. But doctor was amazed at the difference and the strength back in his legs.

    Sheila, I don't know if I am making good progress on w/d or not..really, don't know..I don't feel like I am. But from listening to other people I feel that I expect it to happen faster than it seems to be..and that I am not as sick. However, personally, my life revolves around how I am feeling these days.

    Because of your confusion over the story you recommended..it makes me think that I have brought up a wrong link. The one I checked stated clearly that it was paranormal/occult. When my signal is stronger I will use the site you suggested and relook at it.

    Sorry about the long message....you might need an eye compress after all this..ha,ha.
    xoxo

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    Joy -- The answer to w/d will definitely be several things and the right blend will vary from person to person. This is one of those complex syndromes that defies a magic-bullet or one-size-fits-all approach.

    I would definitely like to keep in touch, but I'm confused -- your email is on my blog? Is it in one of the comments? This is a hard week and my computer died to top it all off so I don't have access to all my data. Tell me again where your email is or email it to my blog gmail, please.

    Great about Ed's farmer knowledge! Well, you and Ed may end up writing the new book on iodine....
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